Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden showed he was “very disconnected from the real world” when the Democrat said during Thursday night’s debate he would “transition” the American economy away from oil and gas, Double Eagle Energy Holdings CEO Cody Campbell told “The Story” Friday.
“I was disappointed … I wasn’t surprised by it,” Campbell told host Martha MacCallum. “What he said last night was consistent with the platform he’s carried from the beginning. He has flipped and flopped a lot.”
Campbell went on to suggest that Biden has been speaking out of both sides of his mouth on the issue as a way to “trick” voters.
“But really he is after the end of our industry,” Campbell went on. “He wants to put an end to our industry and what he said last night made that very clear.”
Later in the interview, MacCallum played a clip of George H.W. Bush biographer Jon Meacham saying on MSNBC that Trump “is a product of the anguished nervous White guy’s lizard brain.”
“I think Trump did himself good with his base tonight,” Meacham said in analyzing the debate. “The question for America is how big that base is.”
Campbell remarked that Meacham’s comments don’t mean much to him.
“I think about taking care of our employees and their families,” he said. “If that means that I have a lizard brain, then I guess you can chalk me up as an iguana because that’s what I am.
“I think a lot of people in this country feel the same way that I do.”
A post-debate exchange came as Biden briefly spoke with the press as he walked to his plane. Biden has been consistent through the campaign on his plans to set the United States on a path to zero-emissions by 2050 while not banning fracking in the immediate future.
But his framing of that plan ‒ as a commitment to ending fossil fuels in front of liberal audiences or alternatively a commitment to not immediately getting rid of fossil-fuel related jobs to more centrist ones ‒ has spurred accusations of hypocrisy. Biden on Thursday night said he would not ban fracking but portrayed his stance in more of a tougher light against the fossil fuel industry in general.
“I would transition from the oil industry, yes,” Biden said in response to a question from Trump about whether he would close down that sector of the economy. “It is a big statement… because the oil industry pollutes significantly … it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time… I’d stop giving to the oil industry, I’d stop giving them federal subsidies.”
Trump replied: “That’s maybe the biggest statement in terms of business … because basically what he said is he is going to destroy the oil industry. Will you remember that, Texas? Will you remember that Pennsylvania, Oklahoma?”
Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., Biden’s running mate, took a much tougher stance on fossil fuels during her presidential campaign, which was run far to the left of Biden in the primary.
“There’s no question I’m in favor of banning fracking,” Harris said at a CNN town hall in September 2019.