Donald Trump In divided America, some voters tuning out impeachment trial

For all the gravity of a presidential impeachment trial, Americans don’t seem to be giving it much weight.

As House impeachment managers make their case to remove President Donald Trump from office, voters in several states said in interviews with The Associated Press that they’re only casually following the Senate trial, or avoiding it altogether — too busy to pay close attention, bored of the legal arguments, convinced the outcome is preordained or just plain tired of the whole partisan saga.

Web traffic and TV ratings tell a similar story, with public interest seeming to flag after the House voted last month to impeach a president for only the third time in U.S. history.

“I’ve been watching some really odd stuff just to avoid it,” said Kim Ashford, 50, a court-appointed advocate for foster children from Gilbert, Arizona. “In my circle, everybody’s tired of hearing about it. There’s nobody budging. Let’s just agree to disagree.”

Monica DeMarco, who voted for Trump in 2016 but doesn’t plan to do so again, said she hasn’t watched a single second of the trial, though she’s read a little about it in The New York Times.

“I want to watch something that takes me some place happy,” said DeMarco, 50, who lives near Hamburg, Pennsylvania, and works for a cargo hauler.

“What’s going to happen is going to happen and like the marching ants we are, we’ll go on,” DeMarco said. “Life’s going to go on tomorrow, the sun’s going to come up and we’re going to take care of what’s important in our lives.”

Many Americans are tuning out because they made up their minds about Trump’s impeachment months ago, said Eric Kasper, director of the Center for Constitutional Studies at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire. In addition, he said, there’s little doubt about the eventual outcome — acquittal by the GOP-controlled Senate — depriving the trial of drama.

“If the story was still unwritten, so to speak, then people would still tune in even if they had personally strong feelings about how they would want it to end,” Kasper said. “It’s the fact that both of those things are the case — a lot of people have made up their minds, and it looks pretty clear what the outcome of this trial is going to be.”

Americans are sharply divided along party lines in their views on impeachment, and most say their positions are firm. Three-quarters say it’s not very likely or not at all likely that the trial will introduce new information that would change their minds, according to a poll this month from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

“I don’t think there’s any possibility of removal, said Montel Herman, 82, of Osage, Iowa, who described himself as a moderate Democrat. ”I question whether this is worth it.”

Online and on TV, interest has waned since the House launched impeachment hearings into Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.

The six major networks drew about 11.8 million viewers on the first day of the Senate trial, when lawmakers debated the rules and argued over documents and witnesses.

Combined viewership plummeted to fewer than 9 million people on the trial’s second day, when House Democrats began making their argument to remove Trump from office, according to Nielsen.

By comparison, an estimated 13.8 million people watched the first day of the House impeachment hearings last fall.

“I think it matters. I think we should probably watch it,” said Lynn Jackson, 56, a library assistant from San Tan Valley, Arizona. But, she added, “I work all day, and then I get home and I’m cooking, cleaning.”

U.S. news sites have also experienced waning impeachment interest.

Around the time of the House impeachment vote last month, stories about impeachment averaged about 20 million page views each day. Last week, impeachment stories drew about 15 million page views daily, according to digital advertising and web tracking company Taboola. Google searches on impeachment have also declined since the House vote.

Interest was a little higher among some of the Democrats lining up to see their party’s presidential candidates in the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire this weekend. But even those watching closely said they have little doubt the trial will end in acquittal.

“I’m a bit intrigued by it, but it’s a foregone conclusion. I had a kid sick kid last week, but that’s the only reason I watched for a while. And I fell asleep twice,” said Jeremiah Condon, a 38-year-old building contractor from Fort Dodge, Iowa, who attended a campaign event for Democratic candidate Pete Buttigieg.

“It’s stunning how serious it is, and how little it seems to matter,” he said.

Up to this point, the Senate trial has featured evidence and arguments that have already been aired publicly, and it’s unclear whether senators will vote to hear from new witnesses that might heighten public interest.

“I’m not going to sit there and watch it word for word,” said Paul Faust, 69, an independent from Hamburg who voted for Trump and remains a supporter. “Every day it seems like they’re repeating the same thing over and over.”

Frank Sprague, chairman of the Claremont School Board in New Hampshire, said he’s finding impeachment interesting, but doubts most share his view.

“I think that there’s some fatigue around this,” Sprague said after an event for Democratic candidate Joe Biden. “The battle lines are drawn, the camps are where they are and some people are in intractable positions, left-right.”

Even though Dave Enslow knows how the trial will end, he said it’s still important to follow what’s happening.

“It’s a moment in history,” said Enslow, 41, who traveled to Iowa from his home in Seattle to see some of the Democratic candidates in person. “This is a big deal. … In the political world I’m not sure it’s going to go anywhere, but it’s important.”

  • I am a Trump supporter, but I am not intractable. If the left could show REAL, irrefutable evidence of actual criminal acts, real high crimes and misdemeanors, I would entertain their arguments. But, through the several times they have invoked ‘Impeachment’ against this POTUS since his announcement, none, I repeat, none have had any semblance of actual evidence. And the fact that they keep referring back to the biggest nothing burger, the Mueller Report, as actual evidence is as demeaning to them as is this sham impeachment with none of the supposed witnesses having witnessed anything criminal. It’s truly disheartening to see a political party go so rogue as to alienate not only the opposing party, but some of their own party members as well, by, not only allowing the sham to continue, but to use hearsay evidence as concrete. Remember Rep Quigley said, Hearsay evidence is often more important than first hand. This statement was a huge mistake. This impeachment proceeding was/is a huge mistake in which the left will pay dearly for by the lose of upcoming vote in 2020.

  • I am a Trump supporter, but I am not intractable. If the left could show REAL, irrefutable evidence of actual criminal acts, real high crimes and misdemeanors, I would entertain their arguments. But, through the several times they have invoked ‘Impeachment’ against this POTUS since his announcement, none, I repeat, none have had any semblance of actual evidence. And the fact that they keep referring back to the biggest nothing burger, the Mueller Report, as actual evidence is as demeaning to them as is this sham impeachment with none of the supposed witnesses having witnessed anything criminal. It’s truly disheartening to see a political party go so rogue as to alienate not only the opposing party, but some of their own party members as well, by, not only allowing the sham to continue, but to use hearsay evidence as concrete. Remember Rep Quigley said, Hearsay evidence is often more important than first hand. This statement was a huge mistake. This impeachment proceeding was/is a huge mistake in which the left will pay dearly for by the lose of upcoming vote in 2020.

  • The ‘real’ Donald Trump coming out, jumping the gun, before the 2020 election?

    Is Trump surrounding himself with Evangelicals just for the optics but really working for the Talmud Jews to take control?

    Sure looks that way.

    Trump saving us or eliminating deep state for Talmud Jews NWO to take control of the USA … and us?

    “Donald Trump’s so-called “antisemitism” Executive Order Is abominable, reprehensible & downright tyrannical. It is a blatant attack against the First Amendment protection of free speech and for all intents and purposes elevates all things Jewish to royalty status in America–being granted official government protection against any kind of criticism.”
    Chuck Baldwin Exposes Donald Trump’s Tyrannical Executive Order
    https://youtu.be/LPby6C6BSrU

    “Now it’s illegal to speak truth”
    Min. 11:30: Trump signs executive order “silencing every single debate that the young people have in these universities and is just the first step …”
    ‘… can’t say that the Rothschilds created Israel’
    ‘… illegal to say that the attack on the USS Liberty was a war crime, or to even blame Israel for it’
    ‘… or that 911 was an inside job orchestrated by the Mossad and CIA’
    “… it’s a mess”
    Min. 54:30: “Basically it’s a worship of a race, it’s a supremacism about the race, he made it all about the race and Trump signed it.”
    Min. 28:00: -Trump appointed 140 judges “with daily briefings on Talmudic law”. When they speak of morality they are speaking of Noahide law, not the 10 commandments and they view the goyim as a lower animal species:

    Evangelicals Unknowingly Help Promote New world Order
    https://youtu.be/0y8mjq2eUxA

    Minute 16:30: “… that is where Jesus is coming back to set up his throne…”
    “John Hagee, you don’t even read the Bible.”
    Minute 19:00: “They are using passages of the Bible falsely, misinterpreting the prophecies to lie to American Christians.”
    “Jesus answered, my kingdom is not of this world” – John 18:36
    Min 35:00 “… who ‘IS’ coming to Jerusalem”
    Minute 38:00: “They are preparing Christians to accept the false Messiah … false peace … New World Order.”
    HR 1:13:00: Trump is a total phony on protecting our 2nd Amendment. Gun confiscation will sweep across the country:

    Netanyahu Tries to Wipe Out The Middle East for the False Messiah
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=9l-iDhEClJI

    The part of Israel that Trump’s standing with is all about the New World Order’
    Min 7:30:
    https://youtu.be/fGqhVrEUZ9E

  • The ‘real’ Donald Trump coming out, jumping the gun, before the 2020 election?

    Is Trump surrounding himself with Evangelicals just for the optics but really working for the Talmud Jews to take control?

    Sure looks that way.

    Trump saving us or eliminating deep state for Talmud Jews NWO to take control of the USA … and us?

    “Donald Trump’s so-called “antisemitism” Executive Order Is abominable, reprehensible & downright tyrannical. It is a blatant attack against the First Amendment protection of free speech and for all intents and purposes elevates all things Jewish to royalty status in America–being granted official government protection against any kind of criticism.”
    Chuck Baldwin Exposes Donald Trump’s Tyrannical Executive Order
    https://youtu.be/LPby6C6BSrU

    “Now it’s illegal to speak truth”
    Min. 11:30: Trump signs executive order “silencing every single debate that the young people have in these universities and is just the first step …”
    ‘… can’t say that the Rothschilds created Israel’
    ‘… illegal to say that the attack on the USS Liberty was a war crime, or to even blame Israel for it’
    ‘… or that 911 was an inside job orchestrated by the Mossad and CIA’
    “… it’s a mess”
    Min. 54:30: “Basically it’s a worship of a race, it’s a supremacism about the race, he made it all about the race and Trump signed it.”
    Min. 28:00: -Trump appointed 140 judges “with daily briefings on Talmudic law”. When they speak of morality they are speaking of Noahide law, not the 10 commandments and they view the goyim as a lower animal species:

    Evangelicals Unknowingly Help Promote New world Order
    https://youtu.be/0y8mjq2eUxA

    Minute 16:30: “… that is where Jesus is coming back to set up his throne…”
    “John Hagee, you don’t even read the Bible.”
    Minute 19:00: “They are using passages of the Bible falsely, misinterpreting the prophecies to lie to American Christians.”
    “Jesus answered, my kingdom is not of this world” – John 18:36
    Min 35:00 “… who ‘IS’ coming to Jerusalem”
    Minute 38:00: “They are preparing Christians to accept the false Messiah … false peace … New World Order.”
    HR 1:13:00: Trump is a total phony on protecting our 2nd Amendment. Gun confiscation will sweep across the country:

    Netanyahu Tries to Wipe Out The Middle East for the False Messiah
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=9l-iDhEClJI

    The part of Israel that Trump’s standing with is all about the New World Order’
    Min 7:30:
    https://youtu.be/fGqhVrEUZ9E

  • More and more Trump supporters are seeing Trump is NOT giving power back to them.

    Trump SAID “we will never enter America into
    any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs.”

    If Trump signs this, he is a LIAR (AND A TRAITOR):

    -USMCA trade agreement already passed by congress and senate contains aspects of TPP and the Paris Climate accord, weakening US sovereignty, handing our law making over to foreign bureaucrat commissions, ties us to UN conventions (that we are trying to get out of), nullifies aspects of our senate, and forcing us to accept thousands of ‘climate refugees’? we will be subject to international law (it allows itself to be ‘expanded’), ends PERSONAL sovereignty, no defense against USMCA and unaccountable foreign bureaucracy, GUESS WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR GUN RIGHTS.

    USMCA Threat 2 USA!
    5 reasons why it’s so dangerous.
    Min 31:00:
    https://youtu.be/Y__I6w1v7mE

    AND THIS:

    -DeVos Signs on to Globalist U.N. Education Declaration
    https://youtu.be/AQHedpVSpIU

    World Core Curriculum
    https://youtu.be/7TGfaXWXh2I

    “First of all, he will come to a world which is essentially one world”
    (who’s he? Lucifer, yep)- The War on Parents
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTDxu7XnLDs

    So we have to ‘offer up’ our children to these creepy people?
    Know Your Enemy Part 63 – The United Nations Background
    https://www.youtube.com/wat

    3+ years in and STILL WHY isn’t Trump addressing our education fiasco that has been going on for decades now, a clear and present danger to our country, this is a true national emergency. Every year our leftist infested Federal Dept. of Education pumps out hundreds of thousands of new reinforcement armies of radicalized, socialist useful idiot morons.

  • More and more Trump supporters are seeing Trump is NOT giving power back to them.

    Trump SAID “we will never enter America into
    any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs.”

    If Trump signs this, he is a LIAR (AND A TRAITOR):

    -USMCA trade agreement already passed by congress and senate contains aspects of TPP and the Paris Climate accord, weakening US sovereignty, handing our law making over to foreign bureaucrat commissions, ties us to UN conventions (that we are trying to get out of), nullifies aspects of our senate, and forcing us to accept thousands of ‘climate refugees’? we will be subject to international law (it allows itself to be ‘expanded’), ends PERSONAL sovereignty, no defense against USMCA and unaccountable foreign bureaucracy, GUESS WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR GUN RIGHTS.

    USMCA Threat 2 USA!
    5 reasons why it’s so dangerous.
    Min 31:00:
    https://youtu.be/Y__I6w1v7mE

    AND THIS:

    -DeVos Signs on to Globalist U.N. Education Declaration
    https://youtu.be/AQHedpVSpIU

    World Core Curriculum
    https://youtu.be/7TGfaXWXh2I

    “First of all, he will come to a world which is essentially one world”
    (who’s he? Lucifer, yep)- The War on Parents
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTDxu7XnLDs

    So we have to ‘offer up’ our children to these creepy people?
    Know Your Enemy Part 63 – The United Nations Background
    https://www.youtube.com/wat

    3+ years in and STILL WHY isn’t Trump addressing our education fiasco that has been going on for decades now, a clear and present danger to our country, this is a true national emergency. Every year our leftist infested Federal Dept. of Education pumps out hundreds of thousands of new reinforcement armies of radicalized, socialist useful idiot morons.

  • Gun owners and conservatives being played?

    When the USA is toast, the rest of the world becomes a piece of cake.

    While everyone is gushing in an Ivanka love fest and our booming economy, her husband and Trump are coordinating the Israeli military (Mossad posing as businesses) establish logistics center in Virginia?

    Why Virginia?

    Isn’t Virginia in the hub of US military? Pretty good timing for this phase to be completed so after the election the actual Israeli troops/ foreign UN ‘peace keepers’ can be brought in to enforce complete gun confiscation?

    “… you don’t have to be anti-Israel to be a little uncomfortable with the fact that these are all Israeli, Minister of Defense companies that are seeming to move here into Virginia.” 20 Israeli ‘companies’ with autonomous systems, avionics & naval technologies (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and communications, perimeter protection of borders of sensitive sites, 3D detection & thermal imaging, shooting range solutions, …” etc., etc.

    Oh? that sounds like nothing to worry about.

    Coming very soon February 3 – 6 at the request of Virginia governor Northam…..

    Why?

    So do you really believe Northam is the one bringing Israeli Military ops (Mossad posing as business?) into Virginia? Rrrrright.

    Trump tweeting about this? ..cricket sounds. Trump owns the NSA he knows what’s going on.

    No American companies?

    Minute 7:00
    Sweet Virginia – In Pursuit of Truth Presents
    https://youtu.be/6FRTq6LvNgU

    So we’re expected to really believe Northam is the one bringing Israeli Military ops (Mossad posing as business?) into Virginia or is it Jared and Trump? I believe, based on what Trump has ALREADY DONE (and not doing), that Israel is setting up logistics militarily and after the election is when the Israeli/NATO/UN ‘peace keepers’ will forcibly dis-arm the USA. Killing the goyim will more fun than killing Palestinians?

    At the same time Trump appointed 140 judges “with daily briefings on Talmudic law” + Ivanka is “quietly calling” legislators pushing red flag laws + Jared at Trump’s right hand when he signed the executive order silencing any criticism of Jews free speech on campuses.

    Talmudic Law??

    Silencing free speech??…yep

    -1991 (same year of his NWO speech) Skull and Bones Bush Sr. signed the Talmudic 7 Noahide laws into US law (Do these laws apply to goyim if the goys are regarded as a lower animal species?).
    -Jewish Sanhedrin have been pushing Trump to
    enforce these laws. And Trump apparently is.

    It is no longer democrat vs republican, liberal vs conservative or black vs white anymore, we got a new boss and it’s not Trump, it’s Trump’s boss.

    I believe they’re setting us up, a take over with the help of Trump? We’ll be under Noahide Law & the NWO, USMCA supersedes our constitution & US sovereignty, we will no longer be a Judeo Christian country.
    Talmud is Luciferian.

    America is and always was a Judeo Christian country, Talmudism is anti-Christ.
    And they hate goyim this much:

    Min. 23:00 for a taste what Talmud/orthodox Jews think of Christians, “President Trump is not on the side in the people of Virginia.” – Min. 7:00, be sure to go to Min. 29:45:
    Virginia Sheriffs Fight for the Second Amendment
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=HnTK9klQJ78

    And they want our guns … and why, minute 1:00:
    “Virginia’s Social Experiment”
    Get one state first, then the dominos.
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=4lEYCDVkn

  • Gun owners and conservatives being played?

    When the USA is toast, the rest of the world becomes a piece of cake.

    While everyone is gushing in an Ivanka love fest and our booming economy, her husband and Trump are coordinating the Israeli military (Mossad posing as businesses) establish logistics center in Virginia?

    Why Virginia?

    Isn’t Virginia in the hub of US military? Pretty good timing for this phase to be completed so after the election the actual Israeli troops/ foreign UN ‘peace keepers’ can be brought in to enforce complete gun confiscation?

    “… you don’t have to be anti-Israel to be a little uncomfortable with the fact that these are all Israeli, Minister of Defense companies that are seeming to move here into Virginia.” 20 Israeli ‘companies’ with autonomous systems, avionics & naval technologies (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and communications, perimeter protection of borders of sensitive sites, 3D detection & thermal imaging, shooting range solutions, …” etc., etc.

    Oh? that sounds like nothing to worry about.

    Coming very soon February 3 – 6 at the request of Virginia governor Northam…..

    Why?

    So do you really believe Northam is the one bringing Israeli Military ops (Mossad posing as business?) into Virginia? Rrrrright.

    Trump tweeting about this? ..cricket sounds. Trump owns the NSA he knows what’s going on.

    No American companies?

    Minute 7:00
    Sweet Virginia – In Pursuit of Truth Presents
    https://youtu.be/6FRTq6LvNgU

    So we’re expected to really believe Northam is the one bringing Israeli Military ops (Mossad posing as business?) into Virginia or is it Jared and Trump? I believe, based on what Trump has ALREADY DONE (and not doing), that Israel is setting up logistics militarily and after the election is when the Israeli/NATO/UN ‘peace keepers’ will forcibly dis-arm the USA. Killing the goyim will more fun than killing Palestinians?

    At the same time Trump appointed 140 judges “with daily briefings on Talmudic law” + Ivanka is “quietly calling” legislators pushing red flag laws + Jared at Trump’s right hand when he signed the executive order silencing any criticism of Jews free speech on campuses.

    Talmudic Law??

    Silencing free speech??…yep

    -1991 (same year of his NWO speech) Skull and Bones Bush Sr. signed the Talmudic 7 Noahide laws into US law (Do these laws apply to goyim if the goys are regarded as a lower animal species?).
    -Jewish Sanhedrin have been pushing Trump to
    enforce these laws. And Trump apparently is.

    It is no longer democrat vs republican, liberal vs conservative or black vs white anymore, we got a new boss and it’s not Trump, it’s Trump’s boss.

    I believe they’re setting us up, a take over with the help of Trump? We’ll be under Noahide Law & the NWO, USMCA supersedes our constitution & US sovereignty, we will no longer be a Judeo Christian country.
    Talmud is Luciferian.

    America is and always was a Judeo Christian country, Talmudism is anti-Christ.
    And they hate goyim this much:

    Min. 23:00 for a taste what Talmud/orthodox Jews think of Christians, “President Trump is not on the side in the people of Virginia.” – Min. 7:00, be sure to go to Min. 29:45:
    Virginia Sheriffs Fight for the Second Amendment
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=HnTK9klQJ78

    And they want our guns … and why, minute 1:00:
    “Virginia’s Social Experiment”
    Get one state first, then the dominos.
    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=4lEYCDVkn

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